Congressional leaders traded blame for the government shutdown on Sunday as the stalemate over how to reopen the government stretched into another week without progress on negotiations.
Missed the second half of the show? Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, Democratic Sen. Tammy Duckworth of Illinois and Ret. Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges join "Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan."
"Let's discuss through the mediators the logistics and the mechanics behind how that happens, and that has to happen very quickly. That cannot drag on," Secretary of State Marco Rubio said.
Ret. Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges told "Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan" that Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth's remarks about fitness standards to his military generals were "completely unnecessary." Hodges called it "almost a medieval approach, that doesn't reflect the requirements that we have for women and men who are intelligent, able to operate in a modern battlefield environment."
The following is the transcript of the interview with Secretary of State Marco Rubio that aired on "Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan" on Oct. 5, 2025.
